Question to ponder - Do you have clear discourse "boundaries" within your social settings? How important do you think the proper discourse is being practiced?
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I have seen this video and it rang so true. What is discourse and the social setting thing? Watch this video and ask yourself, do you use the proper discourse with the social settings. It seems to me, as I get older, the discourse has been getting blurring. From the way you "act" or "talk" with your friends and how you "act" or "talk" to others.
Question to ponder - Do you have clear discourse "boundaries" within your social settings? How important do you think the proper discourse is being practiced? Link --> youtu.be/qEB4rAZanpM Blog closes 9/25/16 Sunday 11:59 pm
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Sean Dowhan
9/20/2016 09:01:04 pm
Discourse has dramatically shifted within the past two decades.How we as a people in the United States walk, talk, and act in any enviroment. The amount of taboo from the early 2000s which are now the norm is staggering. Sadly most of the taboos thrown to the wayside and have become the norm are not for the better. It is much more common nowadays for a babying of younger generation and a much more volatile younger generation. Where kids can hold the attitude of being quite rude to teachers, but only face minimal punishments.
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Kiara Jeffrey
9/21/2016 01:52:53 pm
There should be a clear boundary in regards to discourse, especially when dealing with formal and informal events. Whenever a person is at an informal event, they act and talk within their primary discourse. It's the way they are naturally. For example, when an individual goes to a family gathering, they might hug people there and talk about more personal topics. On the other hand, secondary discourse is when they tighten up the way they talk and act to a more formal level. For example, if an individual decides to go to a job interview, they won't go up to the interviewer and give them a hug or ask how their family is doing. They might shake their hand and use more complex vocabulary.
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Hope Zidan
9/21/2016 02:18:36 pm
Part of the issue in society with discourse is that it's mostly a matter of opinion on how people believe that they should act or it's lack of awareness of generally acceptable behavior. The problem is that it's up to people to draw that line for themselves possibly based on other people's actions. This can be terrible because some choose to copy or model off the wrong people that decided to make their own line; not following acceptable behavior. Academic discourse may be secondary discourse but this does shape us as individuals in dominant discourse for when we grow up and acquire professional jobs where we will be expected to act a certain way or else we won't get the job. Academic and dominant discourse go hand in hand so if we were allowed to do anything that we wanted to in school like come to class whenever we want or openly swear whenever we want then that would carry over into our dominant discourse at our professional jobs where that would simply not be tolerated. At the end of the video a discussion question was to use Gee's notion of Primary and Secondary discourse to help explain the 'achievement gap,' I believe the answer is simple; not too long ago our behavior in school would simply not be tolerated like it is today. Not that long ago rules were more strict and were made sure to be followed with no exceptions. With people in authoritative positions easing up on these rules it makes our discourse worse which is definitely something to think about.
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Teddy Gavorski
9/22/2016 01:13:01 pm
Discourse is extremely important because it gives someone their 1st impression on you. Also, it shows respect. Controlling yourself in front of others is extremely important because it won't make others look at you as a freak and it will make yourself look professional and you'll get respect from others because of it as well. Before at school no one really did anything to control anyone at school but now that someone has set boundaries, the school is finally starting to be in control.
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Ravi Patel
9/24/2016 11:03:38 am
Discourse is a very important filter to maintain and be able to control. The way you should speak to teachers or others in a professional manner should be the main form of discourse practiced, but that is not true nowadays. This generation of children stick to speaking casually to professionals as they would to their friends or family and that is not the appropriate mode of discourse that should be used. Speaking for myself, I know when there is a time to be informal and goof off and when to formally speak to another in a clear and concise way. I may start off at one point in school talking in my primary discourse but as class begins, I would realize that it is the time to learn now and I need to change the way I speak.
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Steven Velic
9/24/2016 04:04:43 pm
Discourse is just a state of mind. It really is. Who ever said how you should talk to someone? How to your friends you can talk in slang and what-not, but to an adult you must be oh-so-polite? Sure, I agree you should be polite and not mouth your head off, but if you really dig deep down and indulge yourself into the past, you'll start to question so many things. And this is one of them. Who ever said what was a bad word and what was a good word? Who even made these words? Discourse is actually even more than about what we think. It goes way beyond that. It's an extremely broad topic that's very open. Discourse could be as shallow and what we think is right and wrong or how we talk towards others, or as in-depth as questioning why we think the things we do or questioning our conscious or unconscious. Discourse is a term that some kids and even adults have no correlation to. They have no sense of respect and manners. Then there are those people who do have common sense. Social discourse has changed over the past hundreds of years and I wouldn't completely say that it's better now than it used to be. We, as humans, change the way we socialize and the way we think all the time. We constantly switch from primary discourse to secondary discourse numerous times a day.
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Lizzie Burton
9/24/2016 09:57:02 pm
Discourse seems to always change in how it is socially acceptable to act as a person. At home what your family says about certain subjects could easily affect you however secondary discourse also has a huge impact. Our parents still go by the discourse they learned as a child so how do our views different? We have to combine our views to realize what our boundaries for proper discourse is. Socially there are some boundaries that should not be crossed in specific settings. For example at home you could not make the same jokes as you would at school and vise versa. Nowadays we also have the internet that adds onto it. Proper discourse is always changing as we continue to learn new information and ultimately evolve as a species.
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Bryan Eggers
9/25/2016 12:03:20 pm
My discourse is different when I talk to specific people. When I talk to my friends while gaming we talk in a different way. When I talk to my parents it is also different. Again I discourse differently with my friends at school. It is good to discourse differently with certain people.
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Mark Derrick
9/25/2016 12:48:20 pm
Discourse is a big part of society. Most people are always aware of how they need to speak and act to be accepted socially, over how they want probably. Although it could be good for younger generations too learn how to speak in a polite manner, but I also believe we are all different people and majority of us use different slang and lingo, and thats what makes us unique and differentiates us amongst everyone else.
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Sammi Green
9/25/2016 06:47:17 pm
I think discourse is vital. It is important for you to know how to control yourself in different environments and to know how to act around certain people/scenarios. But, it is also important to not always act accordingly to other people, and to be yourself. Personally, I think my boundaries in different social settings are pretty clear.
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Jamie Vohnout
9/25/2016 09:14:56 pm
i agree you have to learn how to control yourself in certain settings. it really all depends on the situation but if you're rude or just acting not right for no reason then something is wrong there.
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Hannah Tepley
9/25/2016 07:51:25 pm
Without the proper discourse for a specific setting, a person can lose a lot of opportunities. Like if you spoke to your boss the way you spoke to your friends you might get yourself fired, the same goes for customers, or you might get yourself suspended from school if you spoke to teachers that way. I think some people just expect to be treated in a certain way when they are in certain situations, and in order to stay out of trouble, you have to conform to that. We all do it, but I think it puts up communication barriers, which can also cause trouble. Sometimes speaking your mind in the way you're most comfortable with is the only way to get something across the right way, and to make sure that you're aren't going to be ignored or stepped on.
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Elise Kusold
9/25/2016 10:23:45 pm
I agree completely. It seems today as though many people ignore this and act however they want even in professional environments. This may be due to the more relaxed culture we live in compared to a few generations back which were more strict.
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Patrick Durigon
9/25/2016 07:51:27 pm
Everyone has their own way of going about things. Walking, talking, writing, whatever. And of course this can be changed depending on where we go. I dress much differently at home that I would at a wedding, or something formal. Since we live in a world where there is a certain way to act in a certain environment, we as humans change our discourse to better suit that atmosphere, because its more acceptable of us to do so. People can have loads of different discourses, and that's actually a good thing.
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Hallie Schultz
9/25/2016 08:35:11 pm
Discourse is almost completely dependent on the situation that a person is in. Someone wouldn't speak to a stranger in the same way they would with a close friend; it just wouldn't be proper. It's important to judge the situation that is presented before deciding how to speak. Some people don't understand this, and it creates an awkward situation that no one wants to be in. That's exactly why discourse is so important; to avoid awkward and uncomfortable situations.
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Salvi
9/25/2016 08:58:41 pm
Discourse has changed a lot over the years. When our parents talked to adults when they were kids they (supposedly) spoke with lots of respect. Nowadays, although this is still true, many kids talk to everyone with the same amount of respect. Which sometimes is not very much. And if you speak normally and respectfully you should be able to go anywhere and barely change your discourse.
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Jamie Vohnout
9/25/2016 09:13:33 pm
i think discourse is very important. you can act one way around your friends but not around other people. pleople tend to be rude and disrespectful around their elders or teachers or anyone because they think that since they talk to their friends that way they can talk to anyone that way. i think this happens because kids parents either don't teach them right and wrong or they let their children talk to them that way.
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Elise Kusold
9/25/2016 10:14:35 pm
Personally, I do have clear discourse boundaries however I find it that an increasing amount of kids and teens do not. I think it is important to realize where you are and who you are with and act appropriate in that setting. Having proper discourse leaves a good impression on others around you and will benefit you in the long run.
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Nick Dielman
9/25/2016 11:01:35 pm
The main example of discourse I observe is in the commons during lunch time. There is a table of sophomores that sits near me and many of them are on the football team. In the commons they are a bunch of noisy kids who only cause trouble, throw things, and make a large mess. And when someone comes over to yell at them, they usually shake it off. But when it comes time for football practice they are on their best behavior for the coaches and don't act out. This is my best analogy.
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Curtis Swearingen
9/25/2016 11:02:36 pm
I can't think of any discourse that I "live" by on a dailey basis. There are certain ines that I'm better at and others not so much. But compared to how important proper discourse was in the years before is completely different than today. For example, in the school setting people swear in the hallways like it's no big deal. While even 10 years ago you never heard that. Proper discourse has changed and is even less important today than it has been in the past. You must know what discourse to use at what time. And if you understand that then you'll be able to fit in any place you go.
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Alex Valletto
9/26/2016 09:29:09 pm
Discourse is a thing that differs depending on your setting. When im with friends i would consider myself to have different discourse compared to when i'm at work. Discourse shows the differences in people, and how we act differently in the different places or settings we are in. Discourse is something that cannot be gotten rid of people do not always act the same all the time.
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Frankie
9/28/2016 12:32:03 pm
Do you have clear discourse "boundaries" within your social settings? How important do you think the proper discourse is being practiced?
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mikey turkalj
10/4/2016 01:18:02 pm
I think public Discourse is a really big thing that people slack now a days because of our generations technology and it's keeping the new faces of the earth more anti-social. Discourse can improve the way you meet new people and ways you communicate with people from school districts, jobs, and just people around you.
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Garrett Tryon
10/4/2016 01:20:05 pm
Discourse, it can differ upon who, what, when, and where your setting is. It can even be something as little as just sitting and doing nothing in class while the teacher is teaching or as big as going out with friends when a project is due tomorrow. Discourse is real!
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Chyna
10/4/2016 01:22:20 pm
Discourse has a different setting in different situations , which is good . At an certain area you should be open and exciting vs being at an interview or at an education event . discourse varies depending on the environment and the person .
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Brandon Barron
10/4/2016 01:25:05 pm
Discourse in our society today can be very important. Some people act different at school then they could at home or at work. Having good discourse can help present you as being respectful and good with talking to people and you could meet so many other people by having this quality.
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Adem Bitic
10/4/2016 02:03:18 pm
Discourse depends on your surroundings and the people you are with. Your work place and when your at home are two different environments for example that show two different types of discourse. This goes especially for school for both students and teachers. How they talk has to change when they enter school.
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Bryan Carrigan
10/4/2016 02:13:20 pm
Discourse is a important now a days. It can be very different in different places and situations. This goes for anybody too. They could talk or act completely different. You could also meet a lot of people with this
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Nathan Borris
10/4/2016 04:44:37 pm
I think discourse is very vital. It is important for you to know how to control yourself in different environments and to know how to act around certain people and in certain scenarios. But, it is also important to not always act accordingly to other people, and to be yourself.
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Mark Derrick
10/12/2016 09:08:47 am
I agree completely Nathan. I think there's a time and place for how you act. Hanging out with your friends versus a formal family dinner should cause you to act differently.
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Micah Albu
10/4/2016 05:04:48 pm
I think discourse is lame, but someone's discourse could differ from situation to situation. There could be people with the same discourse no matter the situation. Discourse is still lame.
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Max koscica
10/4/2016 06:15:48 pm
I think I personally have very clear discourse boundaries. I know when I'm in a certain environment I know how to act and how to talk. You don't typically talk the same when you're around your friends as you do around your grandparents. I think it is very important to know the boundaries of discourse which most of Americas youth do not.
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Chad Huffman
10/7/2016 01:03:37 am
Discourse is everywhere in our would, and I am even discourse when it comes acting a bit different in different environments. When you're at home, you are going to be more relaxed, while at your job you're going to act more professional. The same thing can be applied to how you talk or the language you use. At home, you might use certain language which may not be appropriate for other environments, such as work or school. See, this world, we are humans, and we have our own way of adapting to atmospheres and that is what it means to have discourse.
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Tyler Nagorski
10/12/2016 10:17:40 am
My discourse is very different when I'm talking to different people. I may use slang words to my friends then speak very politely to adults and teachers. You just have to know when to use either or and know the people around you
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Tyler Heppner
10/17/2016 01:26:51 pm
Yes I can agree with this because there is a difference in the way I act and talk in front of friends and family. My family I talk to with respect and my friends I talk to kind of funnily.
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Ashleigh
10/18/2016 07:14:58 am
I demonstrate clear discourse throughout the different environments that I am in everyday. I do not believe that is difficult to behave this way considering it is respectable to be able to change your discourse in different settings. I think it is very important to practice the proper discourse.
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Brianna Cameron
10/18/2016 08:44:34 am
i demonstrate discourse throughout my daily life. i speak differently to my friends than i would my parents or family or strangers. its everywhere, and everyone does it whether they realize or not.
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Danny Kajic
10/18/2016 09:13:38 am
There is basically two types of discourse. Primary and secondary discourse. A primary discourse would be your home with your family, spending time with them, like eating dinner or watching a football game. A secondary discourse would be something that your going to a school or your work, and talking to different types of people.
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Samantha Firestos
10/18/2016 02:23:39 pm
I do have clear boundaries between primary and secondary discourse. With friends, it's important to be silly, to have fun and relieve the stress we build up from school and work. It helps us with our hormones and regulate the times we feel down. However it's important to be paying attention in class and be serious when needed, to further our progress in society. It is very important to have both so emotions and intelligence can improve exponentially.
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